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The Defenders Danny Rand Joke Wasn't Response to Iron Fist Backlash

By Kevin Burwick — August 20th, 2017

After years of waiting, Marvel and Netflix finally released The Defenders over the weekend, an eight-episode mini-series that brings the streaming service's four Marvel heroes together, Daredevil (Charlie Cox), Jessica Jones (Krysten Ritter), Luke Cage (Mike Colter) and Iron Fist (Finn Jones). If you haven't seen the series yet there will be SPOILERS below, but executive producer Marco Ramirez shed some light on an intriguing aspect of the series. This is your last chance to avoid SPOILERS so read on at your own risk.

Entertainment Weekly caught up with Marco Ramirez for a spoiler-filled discussion of the entire series. When all four of these characters get together, many noticed that they all have a tendency to poke fun at Danny Rand. Some have speculated may be some sort of a meta response to the critical backlash of the Iron Fist series, since it was by far the least critically acclaimed of any of the original four shows. Here's what Marco Ramirez had to say, shutting down any speculation that this aspect of the show is a response to the negative critical backlash.

"We were shooting the finale of The Defenders when Iron Fist season 1 was premiering, so by the nature of it, we couldn't have reacted to it. Any interaction they have to Danny is all based on just the dynamics we wanted to build. It felt like, if somebody came in and said, 'My fist glows with chi and I punched a dragon and turned into this,' there's no way around the fact that Jessica Jones is going to say, 'Bullsh-, you sound like a crazy person.' Even if the dragon were in the room with them, Jessica is going to be like, 'I don't believe that, what the f- are we talking about?' So that's the natural dynamic of what we wanted to build, because Matt and Luke and Jessica had already been introduced, and for comic-book shows, they're all so grounded and so gritty, but like if a guy walks in to these rooms with a glowing fist saying, 'My chi is expanding,' all of them will say 'I don't buy it.' That's the natural thing for them to do."

We know that Marvel and Netflix have already renewed all four of the individual shows, with a report from earlier this month revealing that Daredevil Season 3 will start filming this October. Now that all four of these heroes have teamed up, it remains unclear if they will do so again, but Marco Ramirez had an interesting comparison to make with these characters. Here's what he had to say below, about the dynamic between all of these unique Marvel characters.

"I think of them mostly as like people who were on the same bus when it got in an accident, and then they all filled out paperwork together, and they all went to the hospital together, and now they're going home. And it's kind of like, 'This was a great adventure to have with you, I'd be okay with seeing you again, I'd also be okay with never seeing you again.' It's more like a bond that happens in a crisis. People are intimate now, but it's not like you'll be inviting them over for dinner every Tuesday. [Laughs] We designed it so they could go back to their individual worlds, but it's not like they're apart permanently in any way."

Another report from June revealed that Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage will all return with new seasons in 2018, although that report was roughly a month and a half before the streaming service renewed Iron Fist, so it's possible that show could also return sometime in 2018, although that has yet to be confirmed. It hasn't been confirmed if there will be another season of The Defenders or not, but hopefully we'll find out more soon. Until then, you can re-watch The Defenders or all of the individual seasons with each hero on Netflix.

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